Definitives and Absolutes part II

OK... so have I made a few of you uncomfortable?

Are you unsure about me now? Did I make you upset or mad? If I made you feel anything at all by my last post then please take the time to figure out why?

I wrote it to make you really think about what you believe and why you believe it.

Now with saying that I have to say this...

Yes there are definitives and absolutes...

One plus one always makes two... evil is evil... period and not much argument about that.
Love is amazing and hate can be destructive...etc... I am not here to argue about any of that. Mostly I want you all to really search within and think why you believe certain things and why you choose not to... no right or wrong answer as this is not a trick question.

I remember as a child seeing so much evil and hearing so many lies. I knew deep within my heart that murder was bad... child abuse was bad... hurting other people was bad. I knew these things to be absolutes... no argument in my soul about it.

I think the thing I am having so much trouble with now is all I heard at the pulpit being preached when I was a child and seeing those same satanists doing horrible things at rituals after hours. They also did horrible things just because they were evil and like being evil. I was often taken out of church during services to used and abused by the elders, the deacons, the people who were suppose to be serving God.

I also went to many churches after I left home and saw a lot of the same corruption and heard the same sermons preached. As a child I heard curses being flung out over the people in their 'tongue' language. I heard the same tongues being spoken at the churches who practice this belief in speaking out in 'tongues'. I tried to tell them what they were saying were curses but I was pushed aside and told I was the one being used by the 'enemy' to upset the flow of the 'spirit'.
I tried to warn people about the so-called anointed men of God .... I was told that they were Gods anointed but maybe they just got off course a little...and so excuses are always made for them. I was told I was going to be cursed for coming against these charlatans....I have been told I was the deceived one. How could these people be satanists? The Holy Spirit always flows in their meetings....sigh....??????

Who am I to argue? After all everyone knows the bible better then I do, especially these so -called 'anointed' ones. So if you choose not to believe me.... that is your right. And I have the right not not believe you. You have your definitives and absolutes and I have mine.

I do not attend any church anymore...and now I am being told I am wrong because I am forsaking assembling with my fellow ' Christians'. No... I do not think so but since I am not following protocol I am surly going to hell... backsliding... or whatever. Your absolute?

One thing I am sure about....my absolute... I can not go back into a church and join in. My assembling will have to be over the phone with believers across the country or by e-mail etc. I can not do the church thing anymore... it is too painful and it goes against what I know to be true. I do not believe in some building or membership or some preacher, etc.

OK , so.... I have been pondering a lot on the things I learned as a child. In church and out. It did a lot of damage to me no doubt. My family would be appalled at me lack of belief in most things religious. Especially the fact that I do not speak in 'tongues' anymore. I can not and be true to what I know in my heart.

I feel like a shell shocked person who went through the war.
I know 'your' church is different... I have heard this over and over...I am glad for you but I promise if I went there it would not be different for me.

So... we can argue absolutes and we can decided we are on opposite sides... or we can choose to love each other because of our differences. You can believe I am wrong...but you can also pray for me. You can also choose to love me anyway... but just do not try and convince me you have all the answers. I sure don't have them.

Now any comments????

Later,
Judy

Definitives and Absolutes?

Definitives and Absolutes ?

What goes up does not always come down.

What goes in does not always come out and what goes out does not always go back in .

What may seem right can sometimes be wrong and what may seem wrong can sometimes be right.

Ones truth can be someone else's lie...

What looks good can sometimes be bad, just as what looks bad can sometimes be good.

You can not define God in religion...religion is how we define ourselves and that is always subject to change.

Every ones truth and reality is defined by the perimeters in which they live and if those perimeters change you then change your reality and what you perceive to be truth.

So, what is reality? Is there any such thing as reality? What is truth?

Is there any such thing as definitives and absolutes?

I have heard many, many people tell me you can know God by reading the bible because He inspired man to write it for Him.... Oh? Which version? How many times have you heard someone say.. " God spoke to me in His word" but when you read that same thing you got a very different message? Does that mean they are wrong or you are wrong? Does it mean God is confused?

Can we really know God? Can we really know anyone? I can know some things about others but that does not make me an expert on them... same with God.

So back to definitives and absolutes...

Can you definitively know anything? Can you absolutely know anything? What may be your truth can be someone else's lie, etc.

I know a few things only because it rings true in my spirit....but that does not mean it rings true in you. We all have to find our own truths... seek our own paths...we can share what we learn and encourage others but can we really tell someone else what to believe? Can we really say in all absolutes that we are 100% right and everyone else is wrong?

I have been so sure about some things only to find out later I was wrong. I missed a lot of chances to learn from others because I was so sure they were wrong and I was right.

I was taught that God never changes...He is always the same. If that is true then why did He create everything to change? There is not a thing on this planet or in the universe that is not subject to change... even the bible tells us that place called Heaven has had a few changes in the past. Maybe God does change... maybe that is the one thing that defines God and our relationship with Him... change.

So what is truth? Truth is defined by our own reality and how we perceive it. So how can anyone have absolute truth, especially about God?

As I was contemplating all of this today I was siting up on the mountain looking at all the beautiful changing colors through a light mist... I wrote this poem and I will close this post with that...

The mist is so fine I can hardly perceive it is there...
The coolness of the air, the veil floating past my vision.
The colors change and so do I...So do I.
Briefly the mist caresses my face with its cool fingers of silk...
Briefly the colors scream out in orgasmic intensity, shocking my senses...
only to be gone in a flash.
I often wonder was it really there at all?
Am I really here at all?
Is this reality or only a flicker of a dream...
If it is a dream then to whom does this dream belong?
I try and absorb all those colors deep into my soul...
I try and absorb the silkiness of the mist as it caresses my skin.
But I know...
As soon as I close my eyes it will be gone...
Until the next time I cross over into its reality and be allowed to share for a brief
moment, hopefully...
Once again... that piece of somewhere.

By,
Judy Rutledge